TTR Hawk Eye = Game Changer In Table Tennis


Welcome back to my channel. Today is a great day for table tennis. We are waiting for too
long! Finally, ITTF has applied the Review system,
the ball tracking Hawk Eye Review in table tennis. ITTF should do this sooner! However, better later than never! This is the first time in table tennis history,
ITTF used the “Hawk-Eye” technology in an international competition.This will be great
news for many players! And also important
news for players around the world! If you are relying on “tricky serve”, or “illegal
serve”, watch out! This could be a game-changer! 2 weeks ago, when I watched the match between
Fan Zhendong and Tomokazu Harimoto in the 2019 ITTF Men’s World Cup Final. I see the ball tracking technology for the
first time! Wow! It’s so cool! Table Tennis Review (TTR) technology is similar
to the Hawk-Eye technology in tennis and a number of other sports. Is it too late
in table tennis? You can see that, with this technology, umpire
can call the fault serve better. Lin Gaoyuan has thrown the ball at 52 degree,
not vertical. You are allowed to throw near vertical, about
30 degree. So Lin Gaoyuan
has made 32 degree over! This is clearly a fault serve! Hawk-Eye ball tracking and Reviewing system
are not new. It has been used in many other
sports such as cricket, tennis, football, badminton, volleyball, to visually track the
trajectory of the ball. In 2001, the technology was first used for
Cricket. In 2006, then it is used officially for the
first time for tennis. The video assistant referee (VAR) is used
in football and is a great success. FIFA officially approved the use of VAR for
the 2018 FIFA World Cup. So why not Table Tennis? And up to 2019, it is used officially in table
tennis, during the 2019 World Tour Grand Final. It’s too late! The technology is used in tennis 14 years
ago! And table tennis is much faster than tennis! However, as I said, it’s better later than
never! Because there are many many controversy and bad calls in table
tennis! Yes! I’m sure! Each time watching the controversy and bad
call, I’m really upset for the players. There are 2 main reasons, that I’ve explained
in the previous video, the rule is not transparent, and the quality of some umpire
is terrible! With this new technology, I’m so happy. I believe this will benefit the players, fans,
and officials themselves. There are a lot of controversy, dispute. A lot of players are angry. It’s time to end all of these bad ball, for
a much better image of this sport! 11-10? No! It’s a bad decision. As you can see, the umpire is too far to see. So if the player
is not fair-play, Jeon Jihee will lose the point. However, T2 has applied the VAR system
to reveal this! T2 Diamond can do this, so why not ITTF? Not everyone is like Timo Boll (very fair
play). So if a player is not honest, the umpire is
bad, what should we do? I’ve seen many players cried of angry due
to this! The point, the match
is stolen! And I’ve seen many umpire, they are just amateur
players, mostly old, didn’t see the ball well, and didn’t concentrate fully
to the game. Sad but true! I don’t need to see the replay. The point should be definitely given to Panagiotis. Why?
because it’s not the side ball, the ball go down from the table surface. So it’s 100% sure, that
it’s the edge ball, and it should be given to Greece team. But unfortunately, the point is given to Kirill. This is a very bad call of umpire. 🙁 Very very bad! Because it’s obviously and clear in this case. Each player can make maximum 2 reviews in
a match. By saying “TTR” or “Review” to the umpire,
and then you can make the appeal. And you must call the review immediately after
the referee announced the score. You can not call the review after the start
of the next ball. It’s too late! For the service rule, you need to throw the
ball higher than 16 cm, and near vertical, smaller than 30 degree. ^^
And don’t hide the ball. Search “service rule pingsunday” to know the
all the rules. Do you have any bad experiences, any controversy
to share? Please comment
below. Anyway, this would be a game changer in table
tennis. And thank you ITTF 🙂
See you in the next video, EmRatThich.

41 thoughts on “TTR Hawk Eye = Game Changer In Table Tennis

  1. It's much harder to implement for TT because: 1. The ball is much smaller, 2. The ball travels much faster –> Much harder to track accurately and reliably. Hence it takes more time for the technology to mature before applying successfully to TT.

  2. I totally agree for better decision of the games.I think for now on technology, we can follow every very quickly moving things, but for budgets, other sports have more budgets, sponsors, prize, so easy for them to apply the hawk-eye system. In table tennis, much fewer prize, just another comment.Otherwise spirits is the most important, even in amateur, recreational table tennis, you have no technology but every one have spirits inside.

  3. late!but perfect decision at last!From now on more challenging matches we will watch!And all players must pay for the way they would serve! and sorry points!

  4. As you once said: too many interruptions destroy the game and make its boring from spectators.

    Towel time, rest afters games, time out and now this. I hope they won't abuse of this. Current TT is way more boring than old TT.

  5. Nice work as usual but i have to desagree with you the referee is right the point is not for gionnis, i watched this point in ultre slow motion, first you say the ball is over the net, well when the ball is over the net it is the part of the net wich is ouside the table, not on the table, and don't forget the paralax mistake at this point. More important, when gionnis hit the ball, at the time of the contact ball into his bat, gionnis ' s racket is 30 or 40 cm on the right of the right edge of the table and this is the danger zone for the referee in that situation we know that there are many chances that the ball won't be good if it bounces on the edge of the table. So now letr s talk about the bounce, the rule in sciences is simple, incidence (in coming) angle is equal to reflexion (out going) angle in the horizontal plan ( the plan of the surface of the table). We can clearly see that the out going ball has the same angle than the in coming ball ( in the horizontal plan) ( more or less 30 or 40 degrees). then we can see that the ball has an accélération after the contact with the edge of the table and the direction of the ball just after the bounce is in the direction of the floor, the ball is not going up but down after the bounce and on th vidéo we can see that half of the ball is below the surface of the table at the time of the contact and half of the ball is over the surface of the table, the ball is not good. In that situation ( i am a player, a referee and a scientist), the best thing to do as a referee is to look at the angle of the bounce of the ball on the edge, going down and away from the edge with an angla around 40 degrees, ball is not good

  6. And what happens if someone is serving illegally through it the whole match like it usually happens? You can ask for a review only two times, what happens to that player?

  7. I hope the system will mostly be used by the players themselfes whilest training. They can review their own servers and more and train to do not illigal serves.

  8. wow so they will actually buy slowmotion hd cameras capable of more than the 25 fps we currently have the joy of watching matches with ? nice! but me knowing ittf of course it will just be for the review and not for the actual recording of the match like we have been asking for years now …

  9. goodbye wrong service from most of the chinese players like Liang,Lin,Xu Xenchao,Zhao,Xu Xin(hides with body cant see the contact most of the time),Zheng Peifeng(maybe the most wrong service on tour)..etc etc ..but also goodbye Kallberg,Gerell,Shibaev …world class players but with crazy wrong services..its not normal that they are allowed to hide their service so so much

  10. The illegal serve should be penalized heavily. When a player who calls for an opponents serve to be reviewed and the decision turns out to be a correct one. The game should result in a straight disqualification.
    Otherwise there is no incentive to continue if it means just losing 2 points

  11. Faulty serves may be troublesome for players and umpire decisions can throw them off. But one thing is many times more annoying for the spectators: 1. Ovtcharovs incessant oh-aah, and 2. Harimoto's obnoxious point celebrations. You don't need a camera for that. Just exclude these players from the game until they have learnt to behave themselves.

  12. Absolutely, playing a doubles match in a 1st league cat. the referee decided that I tossed the ball below the table and took a critical point away, I could not believe it. I also have a very quick serve into the opposite diagonal side which is very hard to read the spin (under, top or flat)… the player picked up the ball and calls a net ball, the referee agrees and I had to re-serve !!! WHAT ?!?! This happens often, that the player does not understand the serve and by then it's too late, the ball is on their side … SURPRISE !
    Thank God for TTR ! This is great news especially for big deciders when it matters.
    But I wonder what is going to happen to the big servers like Pär Gerell, Dima, etc…

  13. If the umpire were to make a mistake in those 2 reviews, it's automatically changed and unable to referee on the next tournament date.

  14. It’s definitely the right step.
    However, I think more needs to be done to tackle trick serves where the player hides the contact. That’s something only a rules clarification can do. Something like: ”the ball has to be clearly visible for at least 1 second before it touches the bat.“
    Then the technology could be used to verify.
    Also, at least when it comes to serves, the hawk eye cameras should always be used, not just upon a player complaining. The technology is advanced enough for it to work instantly and fully automated.

  15. It's a simple solution. When there is a dispute over the edge or umpire call. You should just play a let point. Replay the point so no one wins or loses. A little bad for the actual winning player but better than losing the point from a bad call.

  16. 3:40 min : …"and table tennis is much faster than tennis"… – serious ? serve speed in tennis: 200 – 230 km/h, winner in tennis: 130 km/h… winner in table tennis: 70 km/h faster ? no. the table is much smaller than a tennis court, that´s because the players has less time to make a shot, but "sometimes". In tennis, a player has o.o6 seconds ( 6 miliseconds !!! ) to touch the ball when receiving a 210 Km/h serve… be carefull master of table tennis….

  17. As amateur when there is a contestation by any side : we replay the ball …everybody is fairly treated. Rule 2 : the receiver party rules if the ball is out , cause we dont use umpire .In hockey they use camera inside the goal …this avoids poisonnous contestation …there is one that last for 30 years (before the cam) !

  18. Oh my God your videos have changed I have not watched in a long time and so much is better like the voice quality has improved

  19. First I'm sorry for my English. I hope you understand me.

    I disagree with your opinion Mr EmRatThich. For my point it is for Kirll.

    Consider the table an ideal plan, without thickness really with two dimensions. If we touch the ball from outside the table and from a lower height we can have two cases:
    – In the first case (this is not the case in the video play) the ball has an ascending trajectory. In this way you can never touch the top of the table, the game plane is hidden, will touch on the side and would rise later except for effects on the ball.
    – In the second case, the ball rises above the level of the game plane and comes down as in the video. In an ideal plane if the ball bounces on the table, when coming from outside, it will bounce up and in. If the ball touches on the side it will continue to descend and bounce off the table.
    The problem is that the table is not an ideal plane. Then between a boat up and in and a boat down and out where do we establish whether the ball enters or not? For me in the video the ball clearly falls out and down. The ball is out.
    A greeting

  20. I like very much Gionis game, but in this case umpirr was right, because Gionis made a hit from right side of the table, in this angle the ball hitted the side of the table, not the top. If he would hit a ball from left side, then this would be an edge.

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