Third Ball Attack In Table Tennis | Chinese training


Welcome to the channel of coach EmRatThich. Today I will explain to you the key
points of how to do a 3rd ball attack in table tennis. The 3rd ball attack is your first
attack or a shot to open a series of attacks later. Who attacks first, in general, will
have a higher chance to win the point. But firstly, I want to discuss the differences
between the Chinese philosophy and the Western philosophy about this shot. In China, if you ask your coach about the
“3rd ball” in table tennis, he might not understand. But if you talk about the “first
direct attack” (直拍第一), he can answer you quickly. So there is a difference
between the 2 systems. In the Western country, your service is the
1st shot, the opponent returns your service is the 2nd shot and the shot that
you attack is counted as the 3rd shot. That’s why it’s called as “3rd ball attack”
in table tennis. However, in China, the services and the attack
shots are considered apart. So
the first shot is counted after your serve. They studied the services and the
return carefully and that’s why they want to separate the service and the attack
shots. As you may know, there are 2 types of service,
the ace serve where you can win the point directly and the setup serve
which is used to setup your “3rd ball attack”. As Li Xiaodong explained in the “art of table
tennis”, there are 2 types of attacking shots: “canon” or “machine gun”. Players such as Fan Zhendong, who
have tremendous power, are considered to be “canons”. They can overpower
their opponents with two to three shots. On the other hand, Kong Linghui is the “machine
guns”. Shot after shot he hit
the opponents until they are out-matched. For those players who have speed
but not enough power, the matter of connecting shots become even more
crucial. People tend to think that a player who has
no force can never be successful. But then look at Kong Linghui. He has merely average power and spin. His
killer shots are less than spectacular. However, he has speed: speed in
connecting his shots. In hindsight, that is the secret of his success. The
transitions are always fast and ahead of his opponents. In fact, he is a creator
of the concept of winning with speed transitions. Some misunderstandings
about the 3rd ball attack 1. Some players think that they should kill the
3rd ball. So they tend to hit
very hard and try to win this point directly. However, it’s wrong. By hitting
too hard, and without concentrating on the quality (the spin and the
placement) of the 3rd ball, the amateur players make many unforced errors
and then lose the confidence to continue to do 3rd ball attack. Even for Ma Lin, the best 3rd ball attack
player in the world, he has the highest percentage of winning by his 3rd ball
attack. But mostly, his 3rd ball
is used as a set up for his next forehand attacks later. So no matter what
your style “canon” or “machine gun”, your third ball attack must have high
quality: consistency, spin, and placement. Don’t hope to win directly on the
3rd ball, but think about the domination on the next shots after this 3rd ball. 2. Some players are not ready to do the 3rd ball
attack. It’s not a technique
problem, but it’s a mental problem. To do a 3rd ball attack, you need to be
willing to attack just after your serve. Say to yourself “I will attack right after
my service”. So don’t push after my serve, but attack in
any situation. By thinking and preparing for that, you will
change your habit and will be ready to attack after your serve. If you prefer to open the attack with your
Forehand, then learn a service, that let you do a Forehand attack. If you like
backhand flip the ball, and then find a service that make the ball returned
to your backhand side or in front of your body and then attack it with your
favorite backhand. 3. You don’t know how to train correctly for
the 3rd ball attack. A coach has
proposed to do this training “spin the ball at the table”. For me, this type of
training is not for the 3rd ball attack but is just learn to feel the ball, learn to
spin the ball. Or this type of Forehand topspin a feeding
ball. No, if you train
like that, you can not apply your 3rd ball attack consistently in the real match. 3rd ball attacks always incorporate with your
service. You should understand
that “3rd ball attack” is the attack following your service, so this attack will
depend on your serve. Normally, the best 3rd ball attack player
will have the best set-up services. After his serve, he knows exactly where the
ball is returned, and well prepare to attack this
return. So please train the 3rd ball
attack with your service. Liu Guoliang has stopped playing after Olympics
Sydney 2000. After almost
20 years of retirement, his touch and the feeling of the ball is still amazing. Xu Xin is a penholder player who has a strong
3rd ball attack, but he can’t predict correctly the return of his coach. Now, you understand that 3rd ball attack is
not easy, you need to have a good serve which controls the placement of
the returned ball. You also see
that in table tennis, the feeling is very important especially to return the
service. To have a good habit of the 3rd ball attack,
you need to: – have a desire to attack first, or to be
aggressive in your shots – develop a good set-up serve for your attack
– predict the placement of the returned ball (the 2nd ball)
– learn to move by a pattern (big step and then small step)
– add power to your attack by using the concept “power
from the ground”. Do you remember my video about this concept,
Wang Liqin has used it successfully for his powerful
pivot attack. That’s it for today. See you, EmRatThich.

56 thoughts on “Third Ball Attack In Table Tennis | Chinese training

  1. Thx for all your videos coach EmRatThich. I want to start table tennis again after 18 years without playing, i was thing about Stiga allround classic blade, FH: Jupiter 1.8 and for my BH i dont know, some advice me target air tec or moon pro. My physical condition is not that good so i have to restart slowly and i want to feel the ball. Can you please advice me coach ?

  2. Great Topics Indeed. But how to set up service for 3rd ball attack is my concern?
    Can you deal with this topic later? Thanks always Coach EmRatThich !

  3. rolling the ball off the table and hitting the ball right after it fall off is not about spinning the ball. It is to help player conquer the fear of hitting your racket at the table. When you get a long serve that bounce right off the edge, most player scare to loop it because they afraid to hit the table. That was how my coach taught me.

  4. What spin or serve would be most effective for a 3rd ball attack? Because as we can see with the backspin serve by Wang Liquin in the video is effective but controllable but so is the Schlagers' sidespin heavy backspin variation signature serve yet it is quite easy to attack.

  5. i am from iraq..your languege is very good and i can undrestand what do you saied … and i am very happy for your notes and benefit from it to develope my self … thank you very much my freind

  6. Hi EmRatThich!
    I love your videos and they really help me!
    I am trying to get in to the school table tennis team and I have been considered. However, in April, they have decided to run a year group competition. I am struggling with my service and defensive play. Please can you give me tips or make a video on how to improve this two aspects of my game. I am a right handed attacking player.
    Thanks for your videos!

  7. YES love you man
    That's exactly what I'm saying, table tennis is not a physical problem its'a mental problem.

  8. every single video is this guy just trashing on EU or other regions and praising chinese table tennis . china is the best others suck don't know how to play . we get it ok ? just get to the point there is no need to repeat this in every single video

  9. Hi Emrat, your coaching videos have helped me to improve my game in very short time that people are amazed by my improvement. I want to thank you so much for that. I hope you make a video only regarding serves and setup serves, which will be really helpful. while transferring weight to front leg during service, I make the mistake and I am not able to make the ball bounce twice on opposite site of table as professional players do. Please help 😊

  10. i am always confused about the question of what spin to use in the setup serve, to control the direction of the return. would it be right to say that the spin of a pendulum sidespin serve would make the return more likely go to the backhand and a reverse pendulum would be more likely be returned to the forehand? if yes, why did ryu seung min for example prefer a serve that is more comparable to the pendulum serve? was it because he was more comfortable attacking from the backhand corner with a steparound forehand than simply attacking on the forehand side?

  11. Can you do a video of minor adjustments for juniors and the differences between smaller players such as Harimoto Tomokazu and taller players such as Dima Ovtcharov

  12. hi EmRat please could you make a video on what the backhand and forehand grips are and how you change your grips for flicks

  13. Hello, i have a question for you: ¿Do you think is important training with a robot?
    Regards from Colombia

  14. I'm neither a canon nor a machine gun, a handgun at best. If I'm steady & focused, I may hit the target, but will need to reload (break) every now n then. And when I'm out of bullets (exhausted), I use the butt (block).

  15. You're now my personal coach, thank you very much for all your effort to put this awesome content in a very good English pronunciation. Xie xie

  16. Nicely Explained, coach! The biggest change, i will make is i will incorporate the third ball attack with service. Most of the time, i used to do this practice by multiballls, but now i will change it… Thanks a lot!

  17. Thank you for the informative video. A quick note to improve your English: The first syllable of secret is pronouced "see", Like I see you. SEE-cret

  18. coach what do you think about that zhang jike is ranked 70 with the new system and can you please make the footwork pattern 4 video By the way i really enjoy your videos

  19. I learn a lot with your videos , tough i am still afraid to attack by fear of missing my shot …what do you suggest to beat this fear ? ….i know practice , but i mean mentally.

  20. Nói thật nhé.Nhận xét chung chung.ko có trọng tâm.Ví dụ nhé như điểm tiếp xúc,cách phát lực làm sao để lấy lực từ chân,điểm tiếp xúc ở đâu,lqmf sao để đủ ma sát và lực,lwmf sao để đong đo đong đếm biết quả bóng thiếu lực hay thiếu xoáy để bổ xung cho bóng.chấm hết.THÂN

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