Discmania Deep in the Game: Ep 3 – Sidearm (Instructional Disc Golf video)


Disc golf courses are like highways – there’s typically one main route designated to get you to your destination. The beauty of the game is to find alternative ways to drive. You may discover that there are better routes
right in front of you. Welcome to LaMirada –
Deep in the Game. the sidearm was a key to my success in my
first major victory in 2006 I’m going to teach you the proper sidearm
technique to take your game to the next level The sidearm or the forehand throw, is a natural throwing motion used in
other sports. That’s why you typically see beginners and children pick up
that kind of throwing style first there are many different advantages to throwing a sidearm. Such as open
up the fairway to the right side it’s very hard to get a turn over to carry
over to the right side of the fairway But it’s the natural spin and the
natural spin of the sidearm that will take over to the right side giving you more potential to birdie and better advantage on the course. it’s also a very efficient throw –
you don’t need a lot of power from a standstill throw because you utilize
a lot of your body and a lot of your hips when you throw the shot. So you can standstill for the most part and throw a very efficient shot. You can face the target the entire time.
On a backhand throw you turn and turn away, on a sidearm you can sit there and face
the target as you throw the shot also you can get a nice low release
on a shot as your trying to throw a skip shot or a low tunnel shot through some trees. so for the side arm throwing style
there are three main grips: there’s a split grip, the stack grip, and the power grip. The split grip is great for putter and midrange shots real
technical little approaches to the green the stack grip on the other hand is a grip
that’s widely used by many sidearm throwers. Good power, good control But then there’s my favorite grip, is the actual power grip. With good control and much more power, it
actually increases your spin and generates a lot more power as
you’re trying to drive the disc. Thumb on top – I try to place it where the flight
plate meets the rim. nice dense spot, good thumb pressure. Two fingers on the front edge. actually keep the disk in your hand and
keep a nice firm grip These drop out of the way when
you’re ready to release the shot. Sidearm arm swing is a very fluent
motion from back to front. The sidearm is a shorter reach back
’cause your not extending your arm fully you have kind of a tucked elbow here
as you’re going to drive your elbow through as you reach the extension point
and hit the point of release. On the teepad, I square up to the line of release
or the intended flight path. square my body up, I take one medium step of the left, a slight turn with the hips as a lean back and rotate back, load on my
hips, take one medium step with the right turning fully hips, trying to load the
hips to get some power from my body, the last step, a final step: plant foot
with my left. large step as I lean forward, I’m driving my legs
and driving my hips forward in to the final release of the disc. let’s deep in to the game and bring it all together. now for the first part: you’re reaching back on the arm swing reaching back swinging back extending not too far
because you elbow is still slightly bent, keeping the disc flat. As you come in through driving the
legs on that very last plant foot, driving your elbow through, and keeping it close to the body. It helps regain
a lot of power to keep the disc close to the body. too far away from the body – you’re going
to lose distance and lose power. Keeping the arm and form parallel
to the ground and keeping it perpendicular to your body as you almost do a karate chop extending forward This is the hit point. This is where you really
want to accelerate through the shot and give a tremendous acceleration, extended forward releasing the shot. Hit point and snap are very key. The wrist – a little bit of movement, not a full curl but a nice solid pop at the very end of
the shot. The sidearm is a very touchy shot and you need
extremely good timing is coming through With the backhand you can get away with some
missed timing. The sidearm is a super touchy, really
concentrate on the hit point. really concentrate on the middle finger. and release the shot through. and now we are at the most critical part
of the sidearm throw, which is the follow through. You’re extending so much energy in the shot, as you’re extending forward on the shorter shots you’re going to extend
your arm. On longer shots you’re going to spring your arm through. and stepping forward to right leg this
unloads all the momentum that your body builds up in a one forward straight line as
you’re trying to hit your line. You really want to commit to the angle of
the shot as you’re pulling through, keeping your palm to the sky. And extending forward with
your palm to the sky. any wrist rotation or wrist roll can
cause a disc to turn over or even a roll on a sidearm shot. So really commit to that line, commit to that angle and commit to
keeping your arm to the sky. as you follow through and extend. The sidearm is a very
complex throwing style. Here are some common mistakes people
do when trying to do a sidearm: First off – throwing the shot and rolling the wrist. Rolling the wrist will cause a faulty shot to the
left side and may even cause a sidearm roller. really commit to keeping the palm to the sky. Next “nose up” – Throwing nose up at the very end of
the release. It’s a very low release and when you’re trying to throw the shot, pulling up at the very end cause a nose up, and the disc to carry up, stall and to hyzer out to the right side. next is not tucking elbow – by not tucking the elbow you’re bringing your
disc farther away from your body. This causes loss of power
and loss of accuracy. always wanna tuck your elbow. Being a right-hand thrower the sidearm allows
me to open up the right side of the fairway. I throw stable to overstable drivers that have a tendency to finish off to the right side I throw the PD (Freak) and the PD2 (Chaos) in
in the Discmania disc line because of the overstable finish and long
distance on a sidearm throw. Learn to throw shorter shots when
trying to learn the sidearm Throw little short approach shots
with your putter or midrange. and then start trying a little longer shots,
maybe even teeshots on some shorter holes. until you get the mechanics down to throw the longer sidearms I’l guarantee when you learn the sidearm,
it’ll shave strokes off your rounds and take your game to the next level. three key points of sidearm driving – 1. Tuck your elbow. Keeping the disc close to your body in order to produce power throughout
the throwing motion. 2. Palm to the sky. commit to the line by following through
with your palm up to reduce rolling your wrist
and turning the disc over. 3. Firm grip. Concentrate on springing the disc off
your middle finger during the release to maintain accuracy and control.

100 thoughts on “Discmania Deep in the Game: Ep 3 – Sidearm (Instructional Disc Golf video)

  1. You have to see Avery throw this in person. The video does no justice as to the sound, snap, and beauty of this throw. Want to learn this throw for the ultimate field to take a 45 yard forehand to a 100+ yard forehand huck.

  2. Thanks Avery for the awesome tips! Sidearm had become a very important part of my game in the last 2 years and you blew my mind with that power grip! Tried it out today for first time and was slamming 400 ft. sidearms down the fairway @ my home course!

  3. So does any kind of destroyer 😀 and they are easier to control then a boss! but your thinking the right direction…as high speed as a boss is its alot easier to have an errant shot with that then a destroyer make sense?

  4. my sidearm has been struggling, watched this yesterday and hit the course and was throwing 300+. absolutely awesome videos!! keep it up!

  5. This is why a lot of good/top pros throw destroyers instead of bosses… even though a boss has the flight characteristics to go further. Well put Tyler!

  6. Destroyer was my main disc until the Boss came out, yes i have flicked a destroyer a million times but i get an extra 50+ feet from my boss and i have no issues with control, plus my home course has several par 4&5's where distance is crucial../

  7. very true. Even Feldberg (who has his signature on all champion boss's) has all destroyers in his bag, he carries 5 of them if im not mistaken.

  8. my favorite disc to sidearm/forehand is my Monarch, put that thing on an anhyzer line and it'll S curve right where i want it to go. Found the sticker for the third contest too!

  9. It's all the same concept… We leftys just have to do the same thing we always do, adapt by changing right to left/ left to right. Technique is technique my friend.

  10. If you want to go duck hunting then have me throw a side arm. Still working on my RHBH from the other vid. Hopefully I'll be able to pick it up sooner than later because there's a couple of holes I need it on. Thanks for another good video…I'll be bookmarking this one.

  11. I just think it is important to highlight yet again the production value and information here as top notch, great work!

  12. cberney1. He says in the video that he throws the pd2 chaos. However, I believe he throws Destroyers more often.

  13. That's interesting that you say to keep your elbow close to your body because it generates more power. I just watched a Brodie Smith video where he said make sure not to have your elbow because you'll lose power. Watching that video made me want to check this video to see what you said. The interesting thing is you said to tuck the elbow which you actually do when you are pulling pack, but when you actually throw your elbow is outwards just like Brodie said.

  14. To clarify I understand you wouldn't want to fully extend, but I think calling it tucking the elbow might be the wrong wording, since you don't actually tuck the elbow you do keep it a decent distance from the body.

  15. Is there anyone out there who is a better spokesman, role-model and all around good teacher for disc golf than Avery Jenkins? Didn't think so. Thanks for all you do for the sport, Avery, and great video!

  16. It's like jake1260 said, it's exactly the same concept but just reverse for all the right-handed throwing techniques. I'm glad that you liked the Video!

  17. Thanks for the props JJ!! It's very difficult for video to actually capture the exact things that you mentioned along with the speed and power of the disc releasing from the hand, I love throwing these shots!!

  18. That's what I love to hear and I'm glad that the Sidearm Power Grip provided immediate improvement on your Sidearm Distance in the field, Congrats!!

  19. It's never about speed in Disc Golf as it's always more important to have a high level of accuracy and control with Distance Drivers. Sure, the Bosses might be slightly faster but they lack the overall flight consistency that the Destroyers have, it's the main reason that you see myself as well as other Top Professionals throwing the Destroyer for their go-to Distance Driver!!

  20. You're trying to compare the techniques of Ultimate and Disc Golf which are slightly different when it all comes down to it. Ultimate uses very quick and short range sidearm throws where the body is in a very stationary position. As opposed to Disc Golf where it's a full speed run-up, full reach back throw trying to get as much distance as possible. It's best to keep the arm as close to the body as possible (tucking elbow) to increase the arm speed which would deliver a more explosive release.

  21. I hope that all of this make more sense to you as I'm only hear to help you develop a more consistent and productive sidearm throw. Best of luck with practice!!

  22. Quick question. Do you need a lot of upper body strength for great distance in this video or is it more how you throw it? Im a skinny person so I wasnt sure. Ive always used this throw. I can get around 200-250 ft. I feel I can get way more distance. So i think its my follow thru. Please Reply. Thanks!

  23. We have exeptionally skinny guys in our club that throws well over 600ft som No is the answer to "upper body strength"

  24. Great video! I've been throwing sidearm consistently over the past 2 years, and occasionally have errant shots turn left and roll on me when going for extra distance. The second "keeping your palm to the sky" was mentioned, I figured out my issues.

    Excellent quality vid, thanks for sharing.

  25. follow thru gave me a little extra distance, and now im trying to figure how to get more distance with sidearm

  26. Thanks discmania, I´ve had problems with my putting and my forehand throws. I think i got many useful tips from this "Deep In The Game" series. It´s also a very well done series, so thanks a lot! : )

  27. The biggest problem I have that I don't see covered very much in any instructional videos is the angle of the disc when released. how little or much hyzer you need to have on a slightly understable driver to keep it level and not turn over. Or even stable or overstable driver to keep it flat in the air. I can throw decent distance on a full hyzer shot but when I wanna have a sweet level throw like avery here I have a hard time aiming my throw or end up flipping it over frequently

  28. Thanks so much! I was holding the disc straight in the middle as I throw but now I see it should be more on the side. This should help. One tip for the videos is when you say what not to do you could show an example instead of just explaining it. Other than that perfect, detailed, helpful video/series. Thanks again

  29. I am a very good backhand player trying to work on my sidearm. I can throw sidearms but I can't seem to get the distance because I get a lot of speed wobbles in the disc right after release. Any tips to help me release a clean flying shot? Maybe 1 out of every 10 sidearms I throw is clean. I need that to be 10/10

  30. A lot of great pros out there, not many of them can teach. Your ability to explain technique in a way noobs like me can process is excellent. Thanks Avery and Discmania for bringing these excellent videos to the web.

  31. I'd never before seen proper technique for throwing sidearm. I'm a decent sidearm driver, but can probably improve substantially by doing things right. I'm excited to try out the "power grip"

  32. I thought I was weird for throwing sidearm. I've tried and tried to throw the traditional way across the chest but no matter how much I practice I have not power behind it. I use it for short putts. My drive though can go on for days and I'm usually at par or +1. I'm about to play today and I'm going to use the information from this video to hopefully improve my game. 🙂 thanks for the upload!

  33. my basic throw is sidearm, but I lack a lot of distance (ok maybe it has something to do with how old I am) but I am going to try some of these tips and see what happens.  I have only been playing for a few months so I am still new to the game but I enjoy it greatly!

  34. Great tips. I first saw this video when it came out only months after starting to play actively. Thanks to this very tutorial I was able to learn the basics of forearm drive and essentially become a forearm discgolfer. Now, after 2 years of play I find that the same key points still apply and I still have so much to learn.
    Thanks Avery and Jussi for your work and contribution to the disc golf community

  35. After being diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis, I had to switch to my forehand to be able to continue playing. This video helped me make the transition. I can't throw as far as I use to, but on the days I feel good, making the switch allowed me to continue playing my obsession.

  36. great video i took a few years off from disc gold and was never that good at the forehand……i think this video will help a lot

  37. All I do is sidearm but I don't do that wind up like he does. Still consistently throw 300-400 feet

  38. Really been improving my game but the sidearm has eluded me.
    Avery's method seems sooo different from how sara hokum throws. The more limited motion, facing more forwards, less bending at the knees and hips, while still getting strong follow through is just makes more sense to me. I hope trying this out will help. I think I was really struggling with too much motion trying to throw her way. She gets some crazy power though!
    Hope with a lot of practicing and these tips I'll see improvement.
    Thoughts?

  39. Favorite Instructional Video – At 45 I've been going out and hucking my sidearms to the point I have lower right back pain. After studying this vid I adjusted my grip, step approach, release and follow through. After a dozen throws I had 3 PB distance throws with less strain and power needed. You do an excellent job of breaking down the needed techniques and trouble shooting too. Excited to try on the local course.

  40. Started to watch this with 50% speed and I'll have to say, instead of being educational this turned into something hilarious.

  41. Just a suggestions, don't but your next episode links on the bottom of the video, it's very hard to click through the pause button.

  42. looking forward to trying these techniques to improve my sidearm shot. I hope I haven't developed any fatal bad habits that I can't break. Clean cutty BTW, love the blue with white interior and top!

  43. What if I am throwing an anhyzer flex shot with my forehand? Do I still keep my palm up or is the wrist roll necessary in that case? I filmed myself the other day for the first time and was surprised to see that I did roll my wrist in that case.

  44. I threw almost exclusively side arm in my early few years. Now i can only backhand. I cant get any distance with side arm now. I avoid it unless i need to do it on mid range shots.

  45. I cant get it to stop wobbling like crazy when I throw forehand/sidearm! It barely goes 75 feet and wobbles like a hurt duck…barely spinning. it sucks! on the backhand i can pump it out there 375 when I get one, but I cant get a tiny fraction of that with the forehand.

    What is going wrong!?

  46. I hold my forehand with my index and middle fingers together on the inside of the rim, with opposite pressure from my thumb, which is on top back near the rim. It balances on my bent ring finger, and I keep my elbow tight to my body when I whip through. I'll have to experiment with some of these grips.

  47. Nicely written script, and great tips Avery and friends. I may learn to throw forehand yet. Your Mom, Dad, and sister gotta be proud. 🙂

  48. Dropping the disc down at 90 degrees before levelling it out seems ridiculous.  McBeth does it too.  Why?  Keep it parallel to the ground throughout the process.  (Forehanding since Frisbees were invented).  Everything else in this video is spot on.

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