34 thoughts on “Best Serve in Table Tennis for Backhand Dominant Player

  1. I dont understand why the right to left serve is a good serve for BH players, high level players can return all server wherever they want… And at the 7:20 Wang Hao returned Jike's serve at the top of the net, and then Jike could attack that ball with FH. I think most of high level player run away from another high level player's FH because that's a very powerfull stroke compared to BH stroke. I really like your table tennis videos, keep posting!

  2. I don't agree, if this is true ZJK wouldn't pivot on his BH side to use his FH!! Actually it is just that high level players avoid each other FH, now to win the point you can pivot to use your FH but then you risk an active block from your opponent to your FH side exactly at the second you moved more to your BH to pivot.

  3. hey , where should we place these serves ? wide forhand and elbow against forehand dominant players and long backhand against backhand dominant ones ?

  4. Whatever you are explaining, it is just the tip of the iceberg. Base on the reverse pendulum serve from Zhang Zike, it is just a spin direction advantage because the ball will be likely to the BH side but it is the best to hit with pivot FH at the BH side table.

    Likely, if opponent return "soft" with less spin, but not many player with a consistency and confidence with BH, Zhang Zike can do the otherwise. So it becomes his strongest hit and the opponent is really afraid of that.

    To me, reversed pendulum serve is for FH use to smash but because most the opponent understand that so they will be likely to return the ball to BH with "softer" spin.

  5. you said somewhere that we should correct your pronounciation…the word weapon, is pronounced wapen, not wiipen….thanks for your great content…

  6. Wait, I use the reversed pendulum and I am a forehand dominant player. Can I pivot if it goes long to the backhand? Or if it goes short just a backhand push or train for the backhand flip. Because the reversed pendulum is my most spined serve. I could also train to spin the pendulum serve.
    Thanks for a answer!

  7. I have thought some more about this and would like to have your feedback.

    1) general discourse about placement
    In general, the opponent can place the ball into 5 zones:
    1. wide to the forehand
    2. into the forehand
    3. into the elbow / crossover point
    4. into the backhand
    5. outside the backhand

    Placement 1, 3, 5 are good. Placement 2 and 4 are bad.
    That is, assuming you stand in position 4, playing BH in front of the body.

    2) the pendulum serve being good for forehand dominant player

    Now, with a pendulum serve, the ball spins clockwise. A skilled returner can probably do whatever he wants, but the likelier returns are 3 & 5 (and 4). This means the server can shift into position 5, covering this with BH, while covering 3 with FH. The unlikelier 1 & 2 now lie both outside the forehand.

    This kind of position is best for a forehand dominant player, because he can cover the likely 3 and the unlikely 1 & 2 all with forehand, while covering only the likely 5 with backhand.

    If the opponent chooses to maintain this direction, the server is well placed to control the point and even pivot. If the opponent chooses to go for the weakness left on the wide forehand, the forehand dominant player gets into his strong area.

    3) the reverse pendulum serve being good for backhand dominant player

    With the reverse pendulum serve, the ball spins counter clockwise. Again, a skilled returner can do anything, but now the likelier returns are 1 & 3. This means the server can shift into position 3, covering this with BH, while covering 1 with FH. The unlikelier 4 & 5 now lie both outside the backhand.

    This kind of position is best for a backhand dominant player, because he can cover the likely 3 and the unlikely 4 & 5 all with backhand, while covering only the likely 1 with forehand.

    If the opponent chooses to maintain this direction, the server is well placed to control the point, as anyhow even a backhand dominant player has a strong forehand, when he's in the controlling position. If the opponent chooses to go for the weakness left on the wide backhand, the backhand dominant player gets into his strong area.

    4) (a)symmetry

    The two tactics are not fully symmetric because the forehand is the strongest stroke at top level, even with backhand dominant players. The dominance is mostly relative. This has an effect on the likelihood of the return:
    – A pendulum serve can be returned to position 3 (elbow) and 5 (outside backhand). Both represent an equally big problem for a (forehand oriented) player.
    – A reverse pendulum serve will more likely be returned to 3 (elbow), rather than 1 (outside forehand) because even for backhand dominant player, getting an angle from the wide forehand on 3rd ball may be too easy.

    Is this the right way of looking at it?

  8. sir i am a forehand dominant player.
    So u can please teach us best serve for forehand dominant player

  9. i wached this video first time, dont understand, i wached again this is second time, i understand the key thing y mentioned on this video

    very clear and understanding

  10. Firstly you love Chinese players you should see other games to, dimi is great on back hand .. his drives , flick ..placement …
    Reverse pendulum can be used for third ball backhand shot ..fh pivot

  11. thank you for posting these videos, i think as a community as a whole benefits from your analysis and guidelines. promoting the sport further! appreciate your efforts!

  12. I just don't get the reasoning. 9:01.
    Otcharov's return clearly went to his forehand on this point and the point before.
    On the next point after, you mentioned the ball went to the middle, but it actually went to his forehand. 🤔

  13. I am confused. I normally use normal pendulum serve which i put left and back spin on the ball. with that serve, i normally receive the ball back to my back hand position. mostly. if i do reverse pendulum serve, which is right side spin, i mostly receive the ball back to my forehand position. This is what i understood right now. i use both serve depend on the level on the opponent i am playing, and also to have variety. But this is opposite to what you are teaching. So i am confused.

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